The David Grusch Interview on NewsNation, June 11, 2023

David Grusch’s credentials

David Grusch “was an Intel officer for the U.S. for 14 years [who] co-led the UAP portfolio for the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency [reporting to] some of the highest officials within the Department of Defense Intelligence Community … to advise them on some of the hardest target sets that the country had.” Grusch’s aptitude and training in physics made him an asset to the military; his conscience turned him into a whistleblower, and this ordeal has given him the clarity to make the technical issues understandable to the public.

One more of the few and the brave

waiting for disclosure? too lateOther eyewitnesses have long attested:

  1. Yes, we are being visited.
  2. Yes, we have physical evidence.
  3. No, we do not know what this is, but we can rule out anything known to our current understanding

Adding his voice to other brave military testimonials, David Grusch speaks to the core issue:

There’s a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U.S. populace which is extremely unethical and immoral. And it’s totally totally frightening.

It cannot be stated emphatically enough, how very serious a matter this is; nor often nor widely enough, how the real question is who is behind the disinfo campaign, almost completely unseen and hardly challenged, except for the very few calling out in the wilderness of human denial.

The extent of this phase of the reality of aliens on Earth

Grusch notes records of incidents that go back to World War II, that is, the dawn of the nuclear age. Grusch has not grasped that there is a connection in that timeline, made explicity clear by the Allies of Humanity:

“The advent of nuclear weapons in your world triggered the Intervention to go into its mature phase, for they realize that should you become stronger and have greater technological power, then the Intervention would be more difficult to achieve. They would have you believe that they are intervening to save you from your own self-destruction, but really they are seeking to intervene before the situation becomes too difficult. You have become powerful, but not yet powerful enough. They see your world’s environment being destroyed, and they feel they cannot wait.”

We can also understand that “they have come at a time in keeping with humanity’s development of atomic power because this represents an ability to affect life beyond your world.” In other words, our misuse and abuse of technology is contaminating a greater sphere beyond our own atmosphere.

And herein lies the danger

We have grown far too used to living with the idea of nuclear winter. David Grusch, like Dr. Garry Nolan, who represent our best and brightest, can see the evidence above the tree line, so to speak, but they are missing the rivening, grotesque forest of ethical decisions that humanity as a whole is not prepared to make. More to come on this with the next post on the topic of artificial intelligence and how it appeals to our worst instincts to reach for the shiny and bright, quick-fix solution optimized for profit to the earliest adopter. David Grusch felt sick at heart and sleepless before coming forward. It’s time to feel a deep and heavy weight upon the center of our being as we become aware, like the children of Eve in a once beautiful, Edenic planet, that we are naked and unprepared.


Tip of the hat to John Greenewald for archiving the transcript of the David Grusch interview so promptly–and for his long and determined Watchtower practice.

And to Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal together for their reporting on June 5, 2023, in The Debrief, Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin and their ground breaking articles in the NY Times; and to Ms Kean for reporting on the “13 nations from Europe to South America [who have] have published previously withheld UFO data since 2004 [and the] 22 American and international pilots, scientists, and aviation experts [who] signed a petition lobbying for the U.S. to start a new investigation of this global and potentially dangerous reality.” (from this  review of Leslie Kean’s UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record, 2010)

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7 thoughts on “The David Grusch Interview on NewsNation, June 11, 2023

    • June 16, 2023 at 3:29 pm

      Very informative. Thank you

  • June 15, 2023 at 5:10 am

    Thanks, Mary. This disclosure from David Grusch skims the surface of far greater issues that must also be reported. These off-world Space Vehicles being spoken about were already identified in the public domain before this time and were common knowledge. This being the case means he is only feeding people’s expectations and people the ownership of what they suspected. This is a type of pacification; and not official Disclosure of Alien Intervention in our world. This is the soft approach to gain the people’s acceptance; along the journey of compliance.

    • June 15, 2023 at 7:03 am

      My dear Frederick, awareness is the key element. He is aware and he is speaking out. He is making it easier for us to speak without ridicule. We want disclosure before the real alien agenda, now in its mature phase, is fulfilled. Let us unite as humans and support the progress that has been made toward understanding that is yet partial.

  • June 15, 2023 at 6:50 am

    Simplified syntax for speakers of languages other than English:
    David Grusch is highly qualified to speak about the reality of the extraterrestrial presence in our world today. He is not the first U.S. Air Force veteran to speak about the evidence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. These men have studied physics and they have trained their eyes to detect anomalies in the skies. This man has chosen to work with the government agency assigned to study those anomalies, known as UFO or UAP. He is not the first to quit the agency. Now he is known as the “UFO whistleblower,” because he is speaking publicly about the classified information he saw. He has given his report to the U.S. Congress.

    He reports that the U.S. government has artifacts from UFO crashes. He is not the only person who makes this claim. The name “Roswell” represents a city in the U.S. where debris was found and reported in newspapers but quickly suppressed. That was in 1947 (if I recall correctly).

    Without awareness of the Briefings from the Allies of Humanity nor the New Message from God, he makes some hypotheses. He suggests the aliens might be from another dimension. He views the recovered material as scientifically interesting and helpful to the advancement of human understanding.

    • June 15, 2023 at 6:54 am

      The transcript of his interview can be found by clicking on the name “John Greenewald” in the last section of the article. In the second paragraph of that section are two names who have brought this subject to greater acceptance. Their article is found by clicking on the long title “Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin.”

  • June 15, 2023 at 5:57 pm

    Thanks so much for sharing this great news.


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