The Naturalist and the Scientist: 2 Ways of Looking at Phenomena

People who claim to be studying the UFO phenomenon, well, do they know anything yet, or are they still gathering data? “Well, we don’t want to come to any premature conclusions. You know, this is so complicated and we may never understand it!” What are you talking about? Is this denial? Is this the unwillingness to come to a conclusion? Or is it that people simply just don’t know? Can’t they see and feel what this really is? After 50 years, can’t they see and feel what this really is? They need more evidence? Oh, my God! How much more evidence? Another 50 years of evidence? A hundred years of evidence? 50 more years of evidence, and it will be all over then. And the conclusion you will come to will be so obvious.

The Problem of Human Denial

Two ways of looking at the reality of the alien presence

The naturalist and the scientist have different ways of looking at any phenomena in the world. The naturalist views the varieties of expression of diversity “like lace; [like everyone] gets as much of it as [they] can.“

Like collectors of items to categorize and name, thinks the scientist whose why is more driven to conscious analysis than simply to register what exists. Both pursuits are ways of naming phenomena in the world as if to gain a handle on the world, a way of making sense of the world.

People are going to do what they have been doing,

Marshall Summers.

Are we prepared to start making sense of the real alien presence

These are good questions that Hal Puthoff raises, the underlying question being, “Why are we still stuck on these questions?”

Is the phenomenon predominantly nuts ‘n bolts, psychological, or metaphysical, assuming such distinctions can be made?

• Is the source of the phenomenon predominantly terrestrial, ultraterrestrial (e.g., ancient occult group, isolated preDiluvial high-tech society, stranded ETs/“gods”), or extraterrestrial, assuming that distinctions between these alternatives are meaningful?
• Has the phenomenon “ramped up” in our era, or has it been essentially constant over millennia?
• Are ofttimes-related topics such as claimed abductions, crop circles, and animal mutilations truly related, or are they separate categories of phenomena?

Are we going to keep on asking if the UAP is real? The last 5 years have seen growing acceptance of the reality of an alien presence on Earth with front-page coverage in the NY Times and footage of UAP acknowledged to be completely and baffingly unidentified. Puthoff’s article in the Journal of Cosmology affirms something is happening, what it is, is unknown, whether “extraterrestrial, extradimensional, crypto-terrestrial, demonic/djinn, proto/ancient human, time-travelers, etc., or some combination or mutation of any or all of these.”

Thanks to both the naturalists and the scientists

The naturalists, collectors of incidents, are like butterfly collectors but on a completely different level, considering the implication that something is here but not from here.

The amateur, the follower–and how much more the actual experiencer of the phenomena–make a valuable contribution whether they are making a living at it or not. When highly respected scientists (and high-ranking military officials) are considering the subject of UAP, their witness takes a lot of the air out of the ridicule factor in ufology.


It isn’t necessary that we humans be stuck on the fundamental questions. Here we want the rigor of scientific reasoning.

It is necessary to observe how humanity is struggling with fundamental questions raised by the alien presence. What are we not getting?

What is missing is what could not be supplied by we ourselves, but through sources that can be deemed thoroughly trustworthy on physical and spiritual levels. What is needed is a reliable way of knowing beyond personal preference.

”Can’t you just see this and know this for what it is?” I have posed this question in many radio interviews on this subject and also to ufologists I have met. This is a question for Knowledge . People who rely on their preferred thinking and fixed beliefs cannot not deal with it. And if they want something from this UFO presence, they will have great difficulty seeing it objectively. People may say they require proof or consensus to come to a conclusion. Yet the real proof regarding the Alien presence in the world may be far in the future when it is too late for us to respond and consensus is hard to achieve and rarely reliable. Therefore, it is easier to live with questions than to face real answers.

Marshall Summers

Human ways of knowing so admirably developed in the observational skills of observers and the logical thinking of scientists are needed and they are not enough. A higher perspective is needed. Human beings as a race are in need of a trusted mentor. From a way of knowing that is deep within, those who sincerely desire to know will be able to identify trustworthy sources. These voices will speak cogently and ethically, without sugar-coating or manipulation.

Key points from Resisting the Intervention

The truth simplifies and clarifies. The reality of the Unexplained Aerial Phenomena becomes so clear to be a good deal less “unexplained.” The truth is so consistent that it is unassailable.

There is a foreign presence in the world. It has been here for some time. It is a presence from beyond the world, a presence that is here to take advantage of a weak and divided humanity.

Even more than the development of dangerous nuclear weapons, the degradation of the world’s environment by the human family is what has really called the Intervention here.

This Intervention represents the most dangerous challenge to humanity’s freedom and self-determination that you have ever faced. While there has been visitation to your world throughout history, there has never been an Intervention such as this. And the forces who are here today do not represent those who visited your world in the distant past or in antiquity.

Your world is immensely rich and valuable—rich in biological resources, rich in its biological diversity. You are living on a planet of immense value to others, and you are ruining it, abusing it, mismanaging it.

Because there is no one on the Earth who could have a real knowledge and understanding of the complexities and the interactions of intelligent life in the universe, the preparation for this Greater Community must come from God. It must come from the Creator of all life.

Humanity is facing its greatest threat and greatest challenge, but it is also facing its greatest opportunity to forge human unity and cooperation for the preservation of the world.

The Intervention has studied human psychology and physiology and has devised a very potent form of persuasion. It has taken many people against their will and subjected them to cruel experiments and powerful forms of mind control. Many of these people now cannot think for themselves. Their minds have been overtaken. Their freedom has been taken from them. They are now like laboratory animals for the Intervention, used for reproductive purposes so the Intervention can create hybrid individuals to be in positions of power and influence in government, commerce and religion.

As resources decline within this world, and as economic and political instability increases, the offerings of the Intervention will become ever more persuasive. Yet what it is offering is your own demise—the loss of human freedom, your dependence upon foreign technology and foreign powers.

Spiritual enlightenment is extremely rare in the universe, as it is in your world. Freedom is rare in the universe, as it is in your world. Free races remain hidden and do not become involved in vast networks of trade and the controlling forces that govern them.

You will have very little freedom and self-determination under these circumstances. This has been the fate of so many races.

You must resist the Intervention. You must recognize it is nothing more than competition from beyond the world. You must not be fooled by its promises of wealth and power and freedom. You must not become dejected or resign yourself, thinking that you have no power in this matter, for humanity has the great advantage.

This is no casual matter. It is the greatest threshold that humanity will ever face. You will either gain strength and unity or lose your freedom in such an emergence.

All of God’s Messages that have been sent into the world over time have been to strengthen humanity and to foster freedom to build human civilization. Though every religion has been started by God, they have all been changed by people, even to the point that their initial intent has been lost. But, in essence, God has initiated all the world’s religions to enable human civilization to grow and become stronger.

Ultimately, this is in preparation for the Greater Community, where freedom is rare and where freedom must be guarded with great vigilance. This is a reality of life. Deny this and you deny life. You deny the lessons of life and the wisdom of life.

If humanity does not preserve its freedom, it will be lost. If you cannot recognize you are facing competition from beyond the world, this presence and this power will gain ever-greater strength and persuasion here.

For the power of freedom and the power of God are the same, here and everywhere in the universe. And here and everywhere in the universe, freedom must be protected and nurtured and supported. For everywhere in life, it is challenged.

Resisting the Intervention


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